Is our lack of ambition limiting learning?

What if the biggest problem facing education today isn’t declining test scores, new technologies, or even curriculum reform?

What if the real problem is that we’ve stopped being ambitious enough for our young people?

That thought stayed with me long after finishing a recent podcast conversation with my friend and colleague, Professor Stephen Heppell.

Stephen has spent decades exploring the future of learning – as a teacher, researcher, and founder of Ultralab in the UK, one of the most influential learning technology research labs in Europe. Our paths first crossed more than twenty five years ago when I was involved in setting up CORE Education, and ever since then our conversations have had a habit of stretching my thinking in unexpected ways. This conversation was no exception.

We began the conversation by reminiscing about our shared history working in educational innovation, but it quickly turned into a wide-ranging exploration of how education systems respond to change – and why they so often struggle to do so.

What struck me most was where we eventually landed, the idea that, in many ways, schooling today reflects a profound lack of ambition for the capabilities of young people.

Stephen began our conversation by reflecting on how education systems have historically shifted in response to big societal changes.

  • The rise of Sunday schools when the church wanted people to read the Bible.
  • Compulsory primary education during the Industrial Revolution.
  • Compulsory secondary schooling after World War II, when societies realised they needed a more educated population.

Each of these moments, he claims, represented a significant leap in how societies thought about learning.

But when the next transformative shift arrived – the digital age and the internet in the 1990s – Stephen argues education largely missed it. Instead of reimagining learning for a world where knowledge is abundant and connected, systems responded defensively. Curricula narrowed. Standardised testing expanded. Schools doubled down on control and compliance rather than curiosity and creativity. 

It’s a pattern that feels strangely familiar today as we grapple with AI and rapid technological change.

Stephen made a point that resonated strongly with me. Much of our current policy debate in education seems driven by a desire to protect the system we already have, rather than asking how learning should evolve in a radically different world.

When knowledge is freely available and AI can generate explanations, examples, and assessments in seconds, the traditional model of schooling – where teachers distribute small pieces of knowledge to students sitting in rows – begins to feel increasingly out of step with reality.

And young people know it.

One of the most striking observations Stephen shared was the growing disengagement from schooling internationally. Students are “calling the bluff,” he suggested. They still show up – because they’re good people and want to do the right thing – but many are quietly voting with their feet.

The world outside school looks very different from the one they experience inside it.

Part of the problem lies in the way we measure success.

Too often our public conversations focus narrowly on test scores or international rankings. These metrics matter, of course, but they tell only a small part of the story. They don’t measure curiosity. They don’t measure agency. They don’t measure whether young people leave school believing they can shape the world.

And sometimes they tell a troubling story of students who perform well academically who often become less likely to pursue those subjects later in life.

In other words, we may be measuring success in ways that inadvertently extinguish the very passion we hope to cultivate.

The most hopeful part of our conversation came when Stephen described examples of what happens when students are genuinely given agency.

In one project, students were asked to design their own “classroom of the future” using nothing more than cardboard. What they created – quiet learning spaces, collaborative areas, presentation walls – revealed a sophisticated understanding of how learning works.

But the most interesting result wasn’t the design. It was what happened to the students themselves.

  • They arrived earlier.
  • They stayed longer.
  • Their engagement increased.
  • And their learning improved.

When students imagined the future of learning, they weren’t just designing classrooms — they were rehearsing the future.

Towards the end of our conversation I asked Stephen what message he would give policymakers thinking about the future of education.

His response was simple, and powerful – Be more ambitious for our children.

Again and again he has seen what happens when young people are trusted with big challenges. When we “terrify ourselves with the tasks we give them,” he said, they invariably astonish us with what they achieve.

But his final comment may have been the most important of all: Don’t wait for “them” to fix education.

There is no “they”, he says, “It’s us”.

For school leaders, teachers, parents and communities, the invitation is clear. The future of education won’t arrive through policy announcements alone. It will emerge through the countless decisions educators make every day about how learning happens in their classrooms and schools.

And perhaps the most important of those decisions is this: Will we design education around compliance – or around possibility?

Listen to our conversation below.

You can access all previous conversations on Youtube

By wenmothd

Derek is regarded as one of NZ education’s foremost Future Focused thinkers, and is regularly asked to consult with schools, policy makers and government agencies regarding the future directions of NZ educational policy and practice.

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The Learning Environments Australasia Executive Committee  has received a lot of positive feedback, which is greatly due to your wealth of knowledge and information you imparted on our large audience, your presentation has inspired a range of educators, architects and facility planners and for this we are grateful.

Daniel Smith Chair Learning Environments Australasia

Derek and Maurie complement each other well and have the same drive and passion for a future education system that is so worthwhile being part of. Their presentation and facilitation is at the same time friendly and personal while still incredibly professional. I am truly grateful to have had this experience alongside amazing passionate educators and am inspired to re visit all aspects of my leadership. I have a renewed passion for our work as educational leaders.

Karyn Gray Principal, Raphael House Rudolf Steiner

I was in desperate need of a programme like this. This gave me the opportunity to participate in a transformative journey of professional learning and wellbeing, where I rediscovered my passion, reignited my purpose, and reconnected with my vision for leading in education. Together, we got to nurture not just academic excellence, but also the holistic wellbeing of our school communities. Because when we thrive, so does the entire educational ecosystem.

Tara Quinney Principal, St Peter's College, Gore

Refresh, Reconnect, Refocus is the perfect title for this professional development. It does just that. A fantastic retreat, space to think, relax and start to reconnect. Derek and Maurie deliver a balance of knowledge and questioning that gives you time to think about your leadership and where to next. Both facilitators have the experience, understanding, connection and passion for education, this has inspired me to really look at the why for me!

Jan McDonald Principal, Birkdale North School

Engaged, passionate, well informed facilitators who seamlessly worked together to deliver and outstanding programme of thought provoking leadership learning.

Dyane Stokes Principal, Paparoa Street School

A useful and timely call to action. A great chance to slow down, reflect on what really drives you, and refocus on how to get there. Wonderful conversations, great connections, positive pathways forward.

Ursula Cunningham Principal, Amesbury School

RRR is a standout for quality professional learning for Principals. Having been an education PLD junkie for 40 years I have never before attended a programme that has challenged me as much because of its rigor, has satisfied me as much because of its depth or excited me as much because of realising my capacity to lead change. Derek and Maurie are truly inspiring pedagogical, authentic leadership experts who generously and expertly share their passion, wisdom and skills to help Principal's to focus on what is important in schools and be the best leader they can be.

Cindy Sullivan Principal, Kaipara College

Derek Wenmoth is brilliant. Derek connects powerful ideas forecasting the future of learning to re-imagine education and create resources for future-focused practices and policies to drive change. His work provides guidance and tools for shifting to new learning ecosystems through innovations with a focus on purpose, equity, learner agency, and lifelong learning. His work is comprehensive and brings together research and best practices to advance the future of teaching and learning.  His passion, commitment to innovation for equity and the range of practical, policy and strategic advice are exceptional.

Susan Patrick, CEO, Aurora Institute

I asked Derek to work with our teachers to reenergise our team back into our journey towards our vision after the two years of being in and out of 'Covid-ness'.  Teachers reported positively about the day with Derek, commenting on how affirmed they felt that our vision is future focused.  Teachers expressed excitement with their new learning towards the vision, and I've noticed a palpable energy since the day.  Derek also started preparing our thinking for hybrid learning, helping us all to feel a sense of creativity rather than uncertainty.  The leadership team is keen to see him return!

Kate Christie | Principal | Cashmere Ave School

Derek has supported, informed and inspired a core group of our teachers to be effective leads in our college for NPDL. Derek’s PLD is expertly targeted to our needs.

Marion Lumley | Deputy Principal |Ōtaki College

What a task we set Derek -  to facilitate a shared vision and strategy with our Board and the professional and admin teams (14 of us), during a Covid lockdown, using online technology. Derek’s expertise, skilled questioning, strategic facilitation and humour enabled us to work with creative energy for 6 hours using a range of well-timed online activities. He kept us focussed on creating and achieving a shared understanding of our future strategic plan.  Derek’s future focussed skills combined with an understanding of strategy and the education sector made our follow up conversations invaluable.  Furthermore, we will definitely look to engage Derek for future strategic planning work.

Sue Vaealiki, Chair of Stonefields Collaborative Trust 

Our Principal PLG has worked with Derek several times now, and will continue to do so. Derek is essentially a master facilitator/mentor...bringing the right level of challenge, new ideas & research to deepen your thinking, but it comes with the level of support needed to feel engaged, enriched and empowered after working with him.

Gareth Sinton, Principal, Douglas Park School

Derek is a highly knowledgeable and inspirational professional learning provider that has been guiding our staff in the development of New Pedagogies’ for Deep Learning. His ability to gauge where staff are at and use this to guide next steps has been critical in seeing staff buy into this processes and have a strong desire to build in their professional practice.

Andy Fraser, Principal, Otaki College

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